Any gun owners/carriers here???

[Monotonous ONE]

Just out of curiosity...cause I went to the range today and shot my other black baby =)

Florida is really easy to get a concealed carry permit...which is what i have...I have a glock 19 9mm...i love it...im about to get night sights put on it...i woulda done it today but they were sold out. I also have an LED flashlight for it and a 33 round magazine


I had lots of fun with it today



so anyone else dabble???

[sh3p]

I never got the fascination with guns.

I'd hate the thought that the guy next to me might be carrying a gun, casue he might also be a nutter (drugs or lack of them etc) I understand that alot of good sane law abiding people also carry them in other countries, but still, it seems like asking for trouble.

We should go back to the days of throwing rocks ; )

just my two cents

[bscar]

Atleast you don't live in Texas, I think they allow open carry. It's also why one should try to remain calm behind the wheel, you never know if that person who (you)just cut you off has a gun.

[Superstretch18]

I'll probably be looking to get my first gun in the next year or so. My wife has been dead set against me getting one, but now that we are getting divorced... I'm looking at a Kimber ProCarryII .45 or something similar. :D

The "bad guys" aren't going to come to your house packing rocks, so I would feel much better leveling the playing field. I'm not sure that I want a carry permit though; things that can get hairy out there...

[Alpha Wolf]

I need to get out to the range and do some practice for the up coming Hi Power Matches coming up.

Here in Kalifornia we are not allowed more than 10 round magazines regardless of what you gun is designed for. So my XD40 only has a 10 round mag vs the 15 it is supposed to have. Same for my M1A battle rifle (Civilian M14)

:D

[MachZ]

I took the course to get my conceal carry license but haven't went through processing yet. Kind of ticks me off though, the whole licensing ordeal. It seems a bit unconstitutional to me requiring a license to carry, not mention having to pay the huge about of taxes to get it.

Anyway, I don't have a handgun yet but am eying the XD45. I was really wanting a Glock 20 (10mm) as those suckers pack a major punch, being more powerful than a .45 and even a .357 magnum, but I don't like the way the Glock feels in my hand. My thumbs are a bit too short to comfortable and easily reach the mag release. The XD45 was definitely much better in that area and much more comfortable to hold. There's also a someone cheap, compact 45 that I've been eying as well as that really fit my hand well and would make for a good carry gun. Still trying to decide.


What kind of sucks about the conceal carry is that it almost seems as though the criminals have more rights than the law abiding gun owner most of the time. Say for instance if you use "excessive" force against a criminal, usually meaning more than a couple shots, you could get into some trouble when you go to court. You shoot a criminal and your gun is taken away, you're arrested, then you go to court. Of course, in the majority of the cases the person won't be charged with anything and they'll get their gun back... though I think the family of the person can take you to court as well as the person you shot if they survived in some cases. I just need to carry a shotgun so I make sure they're not going to get back up it seems...

[Alpha Wolf]

I took the course to get my conceal carry license but haven't went through processing yet. Kind of ticks me off though, the whole licensing ordeal. It seems a bit unconstitutional to me requiring a license to carry, not mention having to pay the huge about of taxes to get it.

Anyway, I don't have a handgun yet but am eying the XD45. I was really wanting a Glock 20 (10mm) as those suckers pack a major punch, being more powerful than a .45 and even a .357 magnum, but I don't like the way the Glock feels in my hand. My thumbs are a bit too short to comfortable and easily reach the mag release. The XD45 was definitely much better in that area and much more comfortable to hold. There's also a someone cheap, compact 45 that I've been eying as well as that really fit my hand well and would make for a good carry gun. Still trying to decide.


What kind of sucks about the conceal carry is that it almost seems as though the criminals have more rights than the law abiding gun owner most of the time. Say for instance if you use "excessive" force against a criminal, usually meaning more than a couple shots, you could get into some trouble when you go to court. You shoot a criminal and your gun is taken away, you're arrested, then you go to court. Of course, in the majority of the cases the person won't be charged with anything and they'll get their gun back... though I think the family of the person can take you to court as well as the person you shot if they survived in some cases. I just need to carry a shotgun so I make sure they're not going to get back up it seems...

Well at least you can get one. Here in Monterey County in CA the only ones who can get one are "friends of the Sheriff" who donate enough.

[Monotonous ONE]

Yea I personally completely understand why people hate the fact that people such as myself can legally obtain and carry concealed in public. But my problem is that there will ALWAYS be an underground market for illegal firearms either way. Id like to have just a little bit more of a chance if a situation arises.

But the biggest thing about it...I am completely sane/mature/understanding. I know the laws and rules of engagement. Im not trying to be rambo.


I got pulled over maybe a year ago in my CX7 for speeding and not getting to the farthest lane over when passing a stopped emergency vehicle.

First thing I did was pull out BOTH licenses and tell him I had a firearm in my center console. He ran the number...we chatted for a little bit...and i got away with no tickets at all for complete cooperation. It helped that my chamber was empty and it was also locked in the center console.


My next firearm is gonna be even more compact than my 9mm but im thinking of going with either a .40 or .45...prolly a .45

[Alpha Wolf]

Yes it always amazes me when persons (who usually know nothing about fire arms except what someone told them) is scared that a law abiding citizen who has gone through training, and has learned all the legal restrictions placed upon you, and whose regestered gun will be traced to them should they miss use it, is possibly out there next to them.

But these same person happily go about their lives without a care regarding the gang bangs/criminals driving around their town/city with stolen firearms without any regard to any laws or life.

No its that concealed carry person we need to worry about.:rolleyes:

The concealed carry person is more likely to save your ass if a crime is committed to you when they are near than they are to hurt anyone.

With an armed criminal you have Zero chance unless you are armed as well. You may not succeed but at least you have a chance. Without it you are just prey.

Gun laws do not affect criminals. They only affect law abiding citizens who are not the problem. If they are out to murder you do you think a 10 year sentence for an illegal firearm is going to affect their decision to commit the crime if a death penalty does not?

[Monotonous ONE]

^^Precisely


BTW...i have gone to the range and put 1000+ rounds through my firearm. Im not some shooting noobie that just wants to kill someone.


I know your average person may not understand everything about concealed carry and the fact that it actually reduces crime...but they will thank me in the event that I need to save a life whether it be mine or theirs or potentially both




I just hate the people that run around with a CCW that DO want to kill someone. It isnt a license to kill.

A friend of mine told me a story about a bunch of kids that were around his truck or maybe even climbing in it...he said he went out with his 12 gauge and they scattered. I have a few points on this:

1) Hes a habitual liar and story teller so this didnt really happen
2) He thinks hes cool cause he told some people at work this story and they dont know any better
3) You dont go around telling everyone you have a gun or guns
4) Public Display of a Firearm will get you arrested. If someone sees a slight bulge on me...and they call the cops...cops search me and i do have one then i go to jail for it. Not to mention a possible misunderstanding on the police's part that could even get you potentially killed or tazed
5) These kids are very likely to retaliate if he did indeed go outside with it.
6) He lives in a complex with apartments almost completely surrounding his truck so he really didnt do this.

etc etc

hes a jackass but hes constantly talking about "his .45" "his 12 guage" "his AK"...i doubt that he has ANY of them.

Point is...he is like many others out there who are of lesser intelligence and common sense. People like him are out there who do have guns. These type of individuals make everyone else look bad

[Alpha Wolf]

In 30 years of shooting and owning firearms I have yet to meet any CCW that wants to kill someone.

The only ones who may are those who are not CCW but have just bought a stolen gun and carry it loaded on their person. These are the ones who are braking laws, do not know gun safety and I would agree need to be stopped.

Most gun owners, myself included really hope we never have to use any firearm in defense of my self or my family. Never for offense

I have more than 1000 rounds through my newest gun!

[bscar]

I've toyed with the idea of getting a Desert Eagle.

[Alpha Wolf]

Nice cannon...

I have found that I am just not accurate with 44 mags etc.

With my 357 mag, 45 acp, 40 s&w pistols I am way more accurate with.

While the larger pistols are impressive to look at they are a bit over the top unless you are trying to stop Grizzle bears..

I can shoot 100+ rounds at a shoot and my hand is fine. Try that will full power loads in a Desert Eagle... Can you say ouch..

[bscar]

Try that will full power loads in a Desert Eagle... Can you say ouch..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA

[Alpha Wolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA

Oh man that was funny!

:D

Bet he did not get any that night....

[Alpha Wolf]

Here is one that makes a Desert Eagle look like a 22...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzri8dn7p0&feature=related

Only a dumb ass would shoot this mother...

:cool:

[CX7Kristen]

Hubby and I own one. His is a little too powerful for me. Currently own a Glock .357 sig. Stupid communist state doesnt allow guns up here. So no shooting for us. But we plan to get a Glock 19 when we get back to FL, and both plan to get concealed weapons permits.

[Monotonous ONE]

Hubby and I own one. His is a little too powerful for me. Currently own a Glock .357 sig. Stupid communist state doesnt allow guns up here. So no shooting for us. But we plan to get a Glock 19 when we get back to FL, and both plan to get concealed weapons permits.

I absolutely love my 19. Perfect size...carries 15 rounds...very easy to conceal

i carry +p law enforcement hollow tips...so its got some stopping power as well



its really fun to shoot and a lot cheaper.

which brings me to my next point...another buddy i work with own(ed) a Desert Eagle .50...said it was like 40 dollars for a box of 20 bullets...definitely not worth owning unless you have a huge display/rack in your house. Its really just for shock value

Its the most unpractical firearm the world has ever seen. its an absolute hand cannon. my bullets cost 12.99 for 50...so its a lot easier on the pockets to shoot mine.

Now the baby eagle II on the other hand is damn beautiful and useful

[bscar]

Here is one that makes a Desert Eagle look like a 22...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzri8dn7p0&feature=related

Only a dumb ass would shoot this mother...

:cool:

I seen that video last night, the .700 nitro gun was even more fun to watch

[CX7Kristen]

I absolutely love my 19. Perfect size...carries 15 rounds...very easy to conceal

i carry +p law enforcement hollow tips...so its got some stopping power as well



its really fun to shoot and a lot cheaper.

which brings me to my next point...another buddy i work with own(ed) a Desert Eagle .50...said it was like 40 dollars for a box of 20 bullets...definitely not worth owning unless you have a huge display/rack in your house. Its really just for shock value

Its the most unpractical firearm the world has ever seen. its an absolute hand cannon. my bullets cost 12.99 for 50...so its a lot easier on the pockets to shoot mine.

Now the baby eagle II on the other hand is damn beautiful and useful

My uncle is an avid collector, and we used to take his 19 out for me to shoot. I do love the 19 and its easy for me to use, and clean. We used to go out every other week and shoot. We keep the sig loaded with hollow points, but we shoot the el cheapo stuff at the range.

[Monotonous ONE]

yea the stuff i carry is 22 bucks a box


the stuff i shoot is 12...used to be 10

[Superstretch18]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA

hahahahahaha!

True story; same thing happened when a buddy and me went to the shooting range a few years ago. Only replace the wife with an off duty newark police officer that "just had to" shoot my buddy's desert eagle. Oh yeah, and the cop broke his nose too... :D

[Monotonous ONE]

wow...i cant even believe doing that...that must suck


the last time i was at the range...a few days ago...some guy randomly walks out of the range holding his hand...dammit it looked like half his hand was covered in blood


guy who works there- "Put your hand in back of the slide?"

guy- "yup...2nd time"

guy who works there- "Didnt learn the first time?"

guy- "nope...guess not...its a new gun"

guy who works there- "heres a bandage and some cleaner"


it was funny...glad it wasnt me...still dont understand how exactly he would do what he did

[bscar]

Some people just don't realize how dangerous guns are. I know most people who actually respect guns aren't going to just fool around with them and still get jittery even though they're looking down the barrel of the gun disassembled.

[Monotonous ONE]

Complete idiots have proven time and time again that you can never be too careful with a firearm.

[Alpha Wolf]

Take one Moron.
Add Ego
Add a crowd

Result is always bad. gun, bikes, cars never a good mix...

:cool:

I think the gene pool is a bit too deep at times....

[Raider]

I have zero opinion on this topic. I do know that many forums prohibit gun talk, as it is a highly volatile subject. I am leaving this thread open as long as the discussion remains civil. We do not have a policy in place that prohibits weaponry discussion. I do not want to have one, either.

The topic of this thread is for gun owners to talk about what kind of weapons people own, not whether or not people should be allowed to have them. I am going to ask this thread do go back on topic. A thread debating gun control is not going to be pretty, no matter what forum it is on. That thread would be closed pretty quickly I bet.

So please, get back on topic, and just keep being civil all around.

Thanks!

[CX7Kristen]

Sorry Raider. I just cant stand when people threaten my RIGHT to own/carry.

I should download my husbands video of me shooting the .375 sig. HAHA, my tiny self and that big ol gun! Plus I was massively sick, it was not pretty. Although I think I handled it pretty well. The recoil on that thing is rediculous! I thought it was hilarious though to watch some of the guys in the range start acting all cocky if a female was around. I got one of my best friends hooked on shooting too.

[Alpha Wolf]

Any Swiss Rifle Shooters out there?

Got to love 300 yards with open sights....

I won 2 more Swiss medals this year

K31 rifles...

[Raider]

Glad to see you are doing it at a range, not out back shooting the ol truck or something, like the Darwin Winners here in FL do!

[Alpha Wolf]

Glad to see you are doing it at a range, not out back shooting the ol truck or something, like the Darwin Winners here in FL do!

Thanks...:p




I think....:confused:

[Raider]

Yes, it was a compliment

[Alpha Wolf]

I knew it I was just messing with you..

:D

[MachZ]

Any Swiss Rifle Shooters out there?

Got to love 300 yards with open sights....

I won 2 more Swiss medals this year

K31 rifles...

My fiance has a K31 but we need to pick up some ammo sometime. She's already hunted with it but I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, looks like fun though. :D

[Monotonous ONE]

yea out of the 1000+ rounds gone through my glock...100% of them have been at the range



actually theyve all been at the same range i bought it at





oh and also no jams/misfires/malfunctions

[Alpha Wolf]

My fiance has a K31 but we need to pick up some ammo sometime. She's already hunted with it but I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, looks like fun though. :D


They are extremely accurate rifles.

Pretty cool with their straight pull bolt too.

It is always really fun the first time they bolt comes apart and you have to figure out how to put it back together.

I have St. Marie Diopter sights on mine as this is really a must to score over 85 out of 100 pts necessary to medal in the matches.

Not necessary to hunt with.

I refinished my stock after 2 years of shooting. A lot of steaming and sanding in 2007 so I did not shoot that year.

Has the kick of a 30-06 round.

[jonny_sin]

i have a couple...taurus .40, S&W nickel plated 9mm,.38 special police issue,also have semi-auto riffles and hunting **** up the ying-yang

avid hunter here...aswell as a semi weapon's freak.lol

[Superstretch18]

I'm going to ask one last time that we not let this discussion devolve into a "right to bear arms" thread. If you want to talk about the politics of gun control, there are a ton of political and gun forums to discuss this. Have that discussion there; not here.

I've removed any inflamitory posts. Warnings and infractions will be issued for any off-off-topic posts moving forward. We're all here to have fun and learn something; let's keep it that way.

Thanks for your cooperation...

[Superstretch18]

Back on topic; let's talk preferences. Revolvers vs. semi-automatics. Thoughts?

[CX7Kristen]

Poo on revolvers! Its just personal preference for me.

[MachZ]

I prefer semi-auto personally but do see the benefit of revolvers being that if you just so happen to have a misfire, you just pull the trigger again and have a fresh bullet ready to go whereas a semi-auto you have to pull the slide to eject the bad bullet.

Plus... I just recently held one of those super lightweight revolvers (Smith and Wesson .357 if I remember correctly) and that thing was absolutely awesome. That thing was probably as light as my cell phone and small enough I could keep it in my pocket without anyone knowing. I'm really, really thinking about getting one of those for conceal carry.

[Alpha Wolf]

I have both.

I love my Ruger GP100 357 Mag with a 6" Heavy barrel.

I also like my Kimber Team Match II 1911 45 ACP
and My Springfield XD40

Here in California where the 10 round max limit the biggest advantage an auto has over a revolver is really reduced. No 16 +1 for my XD.

Autos carry more bullets
Autos can jam
Autos can break extractors
Autos look more modern.
Many now have a rail for lights/laser sights.

Revolvers always go bang
Revolvers never jam
Revolvers have no extractors to fail
Revolvers on single action have a very light trigger pull.
You can pistol whip someone with a revolver

I like them both.
Generally if I am going to shoot a larger caliber/power round I like the revolver better as it has more mass and a longer barrel to mitigate recoil.

Shoot both and which ever one you can hit the target better with and fits your hand better is the best one for you.

[Superstretch18]

I've only ever shot semi's, so picking up a revolver is probably a good idea. I've always heard that revolvers are more accurate. My issue is I'd much rather reload a semi with extra clips than fiddle with loose bullets or speed loaders.

I'm really leaning towards one of the Kimber .45's. I've heard nothing but good things about them. I think I do need some "seat time" with a .357 before I decide though...

[Alpha Wolf]

Plus... I just recently held one of those super lightweight revolvers (Smith and Wesson .357 if I remember correctly) and that thing was absolutely awesome. That thing was probably as light as my cell phone and small enough I could keep it in my pocket without anyone knowing. I'm really, really thinking about getting one of those for conceal carry.

Keep in mind light gun means more recoil. When combined with a powerful round like a 357 mag you will really magnify what you will feel when you pull that trigger. These are done for concealed carry guns to make them lighter to carry all day. But you will know when you pull that trigger and many cannot fire +P loads so you need to be careful about the ammo you buy.

[Alpha Wolf]

I've only ever shot semi's, so picking up a revolver is probably a good idea. I've always heard that revolvers are more accurate. My issue is I'd much rather reload a semi with extra clips than fiddle with loose bullets or speed loaders.

I'm really leaning towards one of the Kimber .45's. I've heard nothing but good things about them. I think I do need some "seat time" with a .357 before I decide though...

Well my Team Match II is a competition gun so it costs more than a normal military 45 acp. But I use it in my Swiss shoots in the pistol competition as it requires off hand shooting at 50 yards. They will not allow my GP100 as it is not a military type fire arm. It has a match barrel, hand fitted, light trigger which is adjustable and lightened hammer, checking on the grips etc. Very tight for the first 100 rounds before it broke in.

So a match type autos can be very accurate. But a good revolver like my GP100 has adjustable sights etc and is very accurate when shot single action.

Speed loaders are easy to use if you get the correct one for your gun and you get the belt holders for them if you wish to do fast reloads. As fast as a mag change once you get used to doing it.

One tip for auto shooters using a revolver for the first time. Do not choke up with your support hand beyond the grip. There is a gap between the barrel and cylinder and a ring of fire nearly invisible will shoot out three to four inches in diameter. If you do, the burns you will get will teach you not to do it again. But many auto shooters cannot help themselves and support the revolver up in front of the trigger guard. Don't

[Superstretch18]

Speed loaders are easy to use if you get the correct one for your gun and you get the belt holders for them if you wish to do fast reloads. As fast as a mag change once you get used to doing it.

Yeah, they're just so bulky. I'd rather carry five clips than two speed loaders.

Good tip on the hand position. You know I would have burned myself! :D

[Alpha Wolf]

Yeah, they're just so bulky. I'd rather carry five clips than two speed loaders.

Good tip on the hand position. You know I would have burned myself! :D

Well if you have the belt holders they are not really bad. You just pull them, push them into the cylinder, twist and drop, close cylinder.

You should see that S&W revolver shooter reload and shoot that revolver of his. 12 shots with a reload in 2 seconds.. Freaky

[Superstretch18]

OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3fgduPdH_Y&feature=related

[Alpha Wolf]

OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3fgduPdH_Y&feature=related

Yes that is him...

Freaking awesome...

[MachZ]

Keep in mind light gun means more recoil. When combined with a powerful round like a 357 mag you will really magnify what you will feel when you pull that trigger. These are done for concealed carry guns to make them lighter to carry all day. But you will know when you pull that trigger and many cannot fire +P loads so you need to be careful about the ammo you buy.

Yeah, I'm not too worried about it. I weight nearly 300 lbs. (definitely, definitely need to lose some weight :p ) and am always busting up my hands on the cars so a little extra kick from a gun shouldn't bother me too much. Plus, that one will likely only be shot in rare cases where I'm practicing with it as I hopefully will not ever actually have to use it in self defense. I wouldn't likely shoot it regularly like I would other guns, just enough to stay used to how it shoots. :D

[Alpha Wolf]

Yeah, I'm not too worried about it. I weight nearly 300 lbs. (definitely, definitely need to lose some weight :p ) and am always busting up my hands on the cars so a little extra kick from a gun shouldn't bother me too much. Plus, that one will likely only be shot in rare cases where I'm practicing with it as I hopefully will not ever actually have to use it in self defense. I wouldn't likely shoot it regularly like I would other guns, just enough to stay used to how it shoots. :D

Keep in mind that if you own a gun you need to first learn safe handling and storage. But critically you need to practice with it regularly. You do not need to pull a gun and then be so nervous about handling it that you cannot shoot it accurately or quickly. Practice Practice especially if it is your home defense gun. But if you are not going to conceal carry it why are you looking for such a light weight gun?

[MachZ]

No, no... it would definitely be a CC gun if I got it. I would shoot it just enough to make sure I'm accurate with it and such.

[Alpha Wolf]

okay the CC answers why the light gun question.

But the just enough statement with reference to practicing does raise questions.

Pistol shooting is much harder than the movies. The short sight radius, and lack of support allow the gun to move. Even the tiniest movement will cause the bullet to move off target by inches in just 25 yards.

Not knowing your experience I assume (possibly incorrectly) that you do not realize how much practice it takes to get good trigger control so you can get nice groups on target. And be able to repeat that over and over again.

If you pull the trigger ie dry fire without a round and the gun moves at all you are doing it wrong and you need to practice more. Laser sights are great for this as it will show you the tiniest amount of movement when you work the trigger. Never practice just enough. You can never practice too much..

Just some thoughts..

I envy your state/county. Here no CC is allowed unless you are a special friend of the Sheriff.

[Alpha Wolf]

I'm really leaning towards one of the Kimber .45's. I've heard nothing but good things about them. I think I do need some "seat time" with a .357 before I decide though...

Keep in mind not all guns of the same caliber are not equal.

Some will fit your hands much better than others. Some will recoil worse than others. Some have adjustable sights others have sights that will not catch on a holster. Some have aluminum frames some are steel. Some have heavy barrels some have light barrels. Different grips. Different weights.

What I am getting at is don't shoot one revolver and make judgments about all 357s. So try a few different types. You can usually rent guns at the range so you can do this if you do not have enough friends with varying pistol types who will go out and let you shoot their guns.

[jonny_sin]

Back on topic; let's talk preferences. Revolvers vs. semi-automatics. Thoughts?

depending on the gun i am up to use both..i love revolvers but love the fact that semi-autos carry more amo.

[Alpha Wolf]

depending on the gun i am up to use both..i love revolvers but love the fact that semi-autos carry more amo.

I like both. Here in California there is less of an ammo advantage unlike in your state. The only ones with 15 round mags are Cop and Crooks. Us citizens would be classified as Crooks if we actually have a full capacity Mag let alone load it up.

[Monotonous ONE]

Alpha Wolf knows very damn well what hes talking about

In regards to trigger pull...i had this problem last time i hit the range. i was anticipating too much and the first 1-2 shots of the fresh mag would be WAY off...way too low. So I need to get in the habit of dry firing a few times. This is a huge problem because in the unlikely event that I need my gun...the first couple shots will be the most crucial if not the ONLY shots fired




On another not keep in mind that not all revolvers carry six shots. There are .357's and .38s that carry more/less. I think Taurus(not sure) makes a .357 with a 7 round capacity. It all depends on the gun...and like Alpha said..EVERY gun shoots different. I was a tad more accurate with the rental Glock 21 .45 ACP than I am with my Glock 19 9mm...but maybe mine needs to be broken in more. Or maybe its the fact that my barrel is shorter...who knows...either way im still plenty accurate with my gun =)



but also...with pistols...its not like rifles...at long range a pistol is COMPLETELY useless...as Alpha noted...if you move the gun an inch during firing...50 yards down to the target your aim could be off by 10+/- FEET!!!!!!!

[Monotonous ONE]

my other black baby


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[jonny_sin]

nice ... love the fact you incorporated the cat and cx-7 keys .lol

[jonny_sin]

well here is one of mine..you can tell it is hardly used.lol
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[Monotonous ONE]

^^^nice...looks good...looks like it would be pretty easy to conceal


is that the Taurus?

[jonny_sin]

yes sir.. that is my little baby right there.. mostly kept in the dark since it is for home security..but i do take it out to the range atleast once a month to shoot.

[Alpha Wolf]

my other black baby


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Nice Glock.

I have a Streamlight M6 Light/laser sight on my XD 40 Cal.
When I use hotter rounds I have to remove it first. The darn thing will come off on the 2nd or 3rd shot. Streamlight sent me new bevel and locking spring for free as this cracked the first time when it hit the concrete at the range. Now with lighter defense loads it works great. But I have to keep that in mind whenever I get ammo from a new manufacturer.

I know you Glock is only a 9mm but have you had any issues with your light? The 40 S&W has a lot of kick in this light frame. It actually twists the gun as it kicks it up.

Yes you barrel length means less time to push the bullet and less revolutions on the rifling so the longer the barrel all things being equal it will be more accurate. But many things affect this. A match grade barrel that is shorter may work better than an inch longer normal production barrel.

I find that even a tactical light can show you movement as you shoot. You can dry fire practice at home. A post it on the wall 10 ft away with a dot on it will work as a target and see if you can pull the trigger without seeing any noticeable movement. This will help your accuracy with both rifles and pistols it is just with pistols it is even more critical.

It is hard to teach as you have to try different ways and finger positions to find the one that both feels right to you and allows you to pull the trigger without movement of the gun.

[Monotonous ONE]

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Yea...definitely on all those things. Im really looking forward to the next time at the range to try to fix my "issue"


But I have never shot at the range with the light on. Maybe Ill try it next time out. Dont wanna seem like a rambo wannabe and stuff. The two 33-rd clips are already enough for that =)


But yea it is a 9mm and it kicks pretty damn hard. In comparison with the Glock 21 .45 ACP my gun is a sinch less accurate atleast in my hands. Maybe its the longer barrel and butt but the 21 feels a lot more controllable as far as recoil is concerned.

[Alpha Wolf]

The weight of the light will dampen the recoil some but you should always practice shooting with it in the configuration you may need to shoot it in.

Your 9mm is most likely lighter than the 45acp. Which is why my Kimber 1911 has a much more controlled recoil than my XD40.

Make sure your holding arm is nearly straight out with only a slight bend to it. Have your other hand bent almost 90 and coming up underneath the gun in front of your chest. Keep your holding arm pretty rigid as you pull the trigger.

If you shoot with both elbows out and bent you have no way to dampen the recoil.

I have tried 9mm and I think the round is just too small to insure knock down. And the few 9mm I have shot (not a glock though) were very inaccurate. Or I just have an issue when shooting them :D. It may be your gun. Have the barrel checked. You can get a match barrel fitted which may help.

[Monotonous ONE]

Trust me...its just my trigger pull for the first 1-2 shots...im anticipating too much


After that its smooth and beautiful sailing and im PLENTY accurate

[Alpha Wolf]

Trust me...its just my trigger pull for the first 1-2 shots...im anticipating too much


After that its smooth and beautiful sailing and im PLENTY accurate

Then you have the answer for target shooting anyway, a few dry firings first will insure all your shorts are on target.

[Monotonous ONE]

Went to the range again. Had a real good time. Went with my boss...he rented a Glock 21 to shoot with my 19. The .45 is a lot of fun to shoot but damn that gun is retardedly massive. My 19 shot like a charm. Like usual. I was nice and accurate. My boss was pretty rusty until he got into a groove. I felt like the master


So 1200-1400 shots through my gun...never a misfire...never a jam...never a hiccup of any kind at all. And i dont recommend this at all at all ever no matter what...im just lazy...but i never even cleaned the damn thing and it worked amazingly well


So yesterday I got off my bootyhole and got around to cleaning it. Made a big difference. Slide moves really easy now that its been re-lubed and cleaned out from all the black powder crap.

It looks like new...and now i fell in love with it all over again

[Alpha Wolf]

So 1200-1400 shots through my gun...never a misfire...never a jam...never a hiccup of any kind at all. And i dont recommend this at all at all ever no matter what...im just lazy...but i never even cleaned the damn thing and it worked amazingly well


So yesterday I got off my bootyhole and got around to cleaning it. Made a big difference. Slide moves really easy now that its been re-lubed and cleaned out from all the black powder crap.

It looks like new...and now i fell in love with it all over again


Well its your gun and your money. Remember power is corrosive and other compounds from combustion of gun powder are not good for metal parts.

You clean them not only to insure they shoot but to keep them in good condition for decades.

I went out Sunday as well to practice some off hand shooting using the Sling with my M1 Garande. Had a good time. Have a nice bruise on my shoulder after 80 rounds. :D It's no girlie gun like the M4/M16...

I had a young solder and his brother next to me. He was taking his brother out for his first time to shoot. I let him fire a few from the Garande. Way bigger smile on his face than when he was shooting his M4. May have converted another M4 shooter... :cool: