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Modus
06-21-2010, 06:17 PM
After many thoughts and personal study, I decided to install the water/methanol injection system on my cx-7. I wrote this post for the guys are interested for this project.

I choose the Labonte motorsports (stage II with with MAP reference) kit, because it has standard in the package the solenoid before the nozzle. I decided to install the nozzle after the intercooler, and I opened a hole 13mm on to the rubber boost tube. (It is required the removal of the TMIC:
http://www.mcx7.com/showthread.php?t=386
and you have to unbolt the 2 clamps with a short philips screw driver)
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I installed a nut(internal), a washer(on external side of the hose) and a liquid silicone as a sealant. The nozzle has 250ml/min output at 150 psi/10 bar of the pump, and it is capable for 300 hp on flywheel at 19 psi/1.3 bar turbo boost because I use ecu reflash.
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I removed the front bumper according to the instructions here:
http://www.mcx7.com/showthread.php?t=2903
I dissapointed a little with the cheap Mazda materials used for protection. I add this photo in order to remove some more bolts and clips because I have european specs model. The clips bolted with yellow are a little difficult to unbolt them, it is better to leave them for the end.
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I used the windshield washer tank for the source of water/methanol. I drilled a 22mm hole and I bolted the plug with the output going to the pump.
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The pump installed on the passenger's side siren's position. The siren relocated a little higher. I used 2 free holes on to body of the car in order to bolt the pump. One of the bolt used for pups electrical ground. I also used zip ties for extra stabilisation.
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I installed the water methanol hose together with the pump's ground and they passed through the upper part of the water cooler. Somewhere near the nozzle I fixed the solenoid which receives electrical signal from the pump and has parallel operation with it. The solenoid is like a switch, opens when the pump operate and closes when the pump is off. It is like an extra safety in order to avoid water drift from the nozzle and sucking water when the intake is on vaccum.
The controller bolted (not permenantely) on the intake after the maf sensor. From here begins a small hose and receives boost signal from the bypass valve( I hooked up a "T"). Now the controller reads the boost after the throttle batterfly, it uses its MAP sensor and adjusts the pump's output in relation with the psi/bar of the turbo. I used as a start 7 psi/0,5 bar (10% of pump's performance)and as a full psi 19psi/1,3bar (100% of pump's performance).
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Now lets go to the electrical stuff. The controller is connected with 15A fuse in operation parallel to the ignition key's position. Be carefull don't use another fuse, because there is a risk of unexpected operation of the pump and the swiched off engine will be filled with water! There is also a led available and this wire must be installed into the dash through firewall (there is a hole between the clutch/brake pedal). I connected the controller's wire ground to the negative pole of battery. Till now I have not tidy up the wires, but I have to do it asap in order to have a clean install of the whole water injection system.
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Here is a video with a test before installation.
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/28rlehk/6)
And video after installation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRop8wV2OQY
I use distilled water and ethanol(blue dyed spirit 93 degrees). I am not using methanol because it is expensive in my country(Greece). I use 90/10 water/ethanol mix.

As you know the benefits of the water injection are:
-Lower BATs (Boost Air Temps) than stock at intake manifold.
-Reduced or eliminated knocks
-Increased the octane number of the fuel because the combustion is controlled with the help of water
The intake it is cleaner than stock, it is free from oil steams because normally on direct injection systems there is not presence of fuel through intake manifold which cleans port injection intake manifolds.
There is a slight increase of motor's performance due to lower BATs, no knock (ECU's) retard of ignition timing.

If you set up your ecu tuning based in water injection, you can raise the boost and/or ignition timing. In this case you have to install more safety parts like boost bypass valve(before the wastegate), water flow gauge, water tank level indicator etc. Because in case of lack of water methanol the engine will run lean and this will be dangerous. Also people are running this setups, are using 50/50 water methanol mix or more. It is recommended ecu's tuning on the dynometer.

Raider please correct (if you have free time)my text spelling due to my bad english:)

Zdraveca
06-21-2010, 06:42 PM
great writeup man :)

Raider
06-21-2010, 07:46 PM
Wow! Nice move. Not many cx-7's go that far. Very cool!

mikomi
06-21-2010, 08:00 PM
Very nice! Kudos to you! How does it feel?

And I agree, it was a pain to get the front bumper off, and I've done it several times.

bscar
06-21-2010, 08:27 PM
What was the point of this install?

Modus
06-22-2010, 05:46 PM
I decided to install water methanol kit in order to support my ecu reflash which raises the boost (to 19 psi) and ignition timing. The summer in my country is hot and this kit also supports the intercooling. I have not indicated any visual difference in performance. But I am sure that the ecu during the hot days is cheating timming in order to protect the engine(safe mode). Now this is not happens. I think this kit helps the endurance of the engine with the support of the cp-e reworked fuel pump I have installed.
I have one off topic question. What is the "type of fuel" pid(indication) in the dash hawk?

Alpha Wolf
06-22-2010, 06:05 PM
What was the point of this install?

Water Methanol injection is used to cool the intake charge.

This makes for a denser air/fuel mixture hence more power.

t also tends to prevent knock which can allow you to run more boost for a very limit period of time. It acts like an octane booster.

IMHO I would only use it for the cooling not to try to save an over boosted engine.

First used during WWII in fighter aircraft to allow them War Emergency Power where they could push through a rubber stop on the throttle and this would activate their Water/Methanol injection and increase the turbo boost giving them a burst of power beyond normal take off power. For emergency situations for 10 mins or less (When the tank ran dry). If they still had it over boosted well then BOOM!

Mike's CX-7
06-22-2010, 07:50 PM
Been seriously considering doing this for a while now... might just have to now with this great writeup.

...especially since the CPE Standback will let me tune the flow along with the throttle, boost, etc.

I'd like to increase the flow a bit at near idle to combat heat soak... then nothing at normal throttle / driving. Then, full on near WOT and high boost.

Might have to go for a bigger tank though. Unless I can replace or increase the size of the wash reservoir. There's a lot of room in that corner.

mikomi
06-22-2010, 08:25 PM
Been seriously considering doing this for a while now... might just have to now with this great writeup.

...especially since the CPE Standback will let me tune the flow along with the throttle, boost, etc.

I'd like to increase the flow a bit at near idle to combat heat soak... then nothing at normal throttle / driving. Then, full on near WOT and high boost.

Might have to go for a bigger tank though. Unless I can replace or increase the size of the wash reservoir. There's a lot of room in that corner.

There's also room in the other corner. :)

Superstretch18
06-22-2010, 09:03 PM
Nice...

m3shster
06-23-2010, 02:46 AM
seeing stuff like this 1) makes me feel a lil inadequate and 2) makes me want to keep spending all my money on my car;)

sick write up and job!!!!

Alpha Wolf
06-23-2010, 11:18 AM
I'd like to increase the flow a bit at near idle to combat heat soak... then nothing at normal throttle / driving. Then, full on near WOT and high boost.
.

Then you may want to inject it before the intercooler instead of after as he did.

That tank is small so yes I would want to place a larger tank somewhere.

Mike's CX-7
06-23-2010, 06:26 PM
There's also room in the other corner. :)

The CPE CAI is over there so no good.

May skip that washer fluid tank completely and get something in the trunk.